Ranking system continued Options

[Swinely]

'thanks to Swinelys "Off-Topic-Complaining" '

I'm not entirely sure why you have any power to lock threads on this board NHL. That was entirely on topic and you know it, hence you didn't actually reply to it, so tried closing it instead. I wasn't the one going off topic and directing insults at me because someone has some kind of complex, my posts were entirely on topic from the OP, unless you don't actually understand english fully? (That would be a good enough reason!)

You can not compare points per minute from vastly different size servers, more players = more xp per minute than smaller servers... I won't bother explaining that further as i'm sure you have a basic grasp of maths if you are fluent in several languages. This was the original point that i was agreeing with the OP on. So would you care to add a serious reply rather than just closing something because you know i'm right but don't want to accept it?

I did also say i wouldn't mind helping with any programming etc, but you were too busy telling me to get a life for no apparent reason... which is actually off topic anyway. Whats with the argumentative attitude rather than adding constructive inputs??

[SixMaJine]

Haha intelligence... now now... I'm 100% certain I have a higher IQ than you, but there again you resort to a very lame insult.
I don't even know what cartoon that is... although obviously you must be about 10 to still watch cartoons!

Wow... you absolutely have no point at all here. Cartoons are only for 10 year old kids? What strange brain anorexia are you suffering from? You know a country named japan, for example?
Are all japanese in the state of 10 year old children?
But, if you wanna help making a better slapperladder, then simply go ahead and stop retarding.
Btw.: beeing 100% sure, especially of something fragile like IQ, states out your diminished brain activity.

[sl.Proddi]

You can not compare points per minute from vastly different size servers, more players = more xp per minute than smaller servers...

why we can't use xp/min for a session? each player has the same conditions for that session and the absolut xp/min was not deciding. after session-calc there was an abstract "rating". u undestand this ? i think no...
if u have a better solution .. please write mathematics!

[Swinely]

Haha intelligence... now now... I'm 100% certain I have a higher IQ than you, but there again you resort to a very lame insult.
I don't even know what cartoon that is... although obviously you must be about 10 to still watch cartoons!

Wow... you absolutely have no point at all here. Cartoons are only for 10 year old kids? What strange brain anorexia are you suffering from? You know a country named japan, for example?
Are all japanese in the state of 10 year old children?
But, if you wanna help making a better slapperladder, then simply go ahead and stop retarding.
Btw.: beeing 100% sure, especially of something fragile like IQ, states out your diminished brain activity.

Ok besides the Japanese, they do love their anime. What cartoon is that quote from anyway? I don't know anyone who watches any cartoons other than the simpsons or southpark. Let alone any adults who watch any of those at all.
I would like to but no one is explaining anything about how its made at all.... pretty hard to just imagine exactly what happens.
But seriously i'm certain i have a higher IQ than you, my 100% sure just reflects my confidence that even with variable measurements my lower IQ bound would still be above your higher IQ bound.

why we can't use xp/min for a session? each player has the same conditions for that session and the absolut xp/min was not deciding. after session-calc there was an abstract "rating". u undestand this ? i think no...
if u have a better solution .. please write mathematics!

Whats the abstract rating you talk about? They have the same conditions only relevant to each other, not to other players on other servers. You need some adjustment for number of players or spawn time.

The fact i'm pointing this out should show i'm serious, because I rarely play on servers with small amounts of players, this is to help those who do.

But its unfair to compare servers with different numbers of players.... ok so:

Server 1 has 60 players ( 8 sec spawn time, same map)

Server 2 has 20 players (8 sec spawn time, same map)

For server one if a player goes towards anywhere they are going to find lots of people and get xp quickly. This server has the higher player density so its very easy to spawn and kill several people and get the xp for it, its very unlikely that you will bemoving for more than a few seconds without finding someone to kill.

For server 2 it will be harder for a player to find others, it involves more walking without finding anyone. Both are playing on the same map, so same area of places, but this server has a lower player density. Thus the players will get less xp because they will spend more time walking, and then when they do find someone there will be less people to kill so less xp.



Also how can etpro with up to 30 second spawn time feature in the same rankings as Noquarters with 6 seconds.... theres absolutely no comparison possible. Their scores are only relevant to players of the same mod.

[SixMaJine]

But seriously i'm certain i have a higher IQ than you, my 100% sure just reflects my confidence that even with variable measurements my lower IQ bound would still be above your higher IQ bound.

Yeah well than i am certain i have a larger dick and a better working brain than you, plus my girlfriends look like supermodels (because they are) compared to that human waste you tend to rub yourself on (because it is). Also, my pretty much important ET Skill is in another league than yours, which doesn't even deserve to be ranked in this ladder that's not represantitive. Although you seem to care about it. Guess thats exactly the argumentation you understand.
No problem that you forget the japanese btw. , it's just one whole country.
Now, will you tell me that im a spas or that your IQ will beat mine? Guess im not excited. SInce i allready know which part of my post you will try to counter. Yap.

[sl.Proddi]

Whats the abstract rating you talk about? They have the same conditions only relevant to each other, not to other players on other servers.

u are on the wrong track. elo based rankings are only need same conditions for all players in the same game/session.
for further questions take a look to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elo_rating_system

[Swinely]

But seriously i'm certain i have a higher IQ than you, my 100% sure just reflects my confidence that even with variable measurements my lower IQ bound would still be above your higher IQ bound.

Yeah well than i am certain i have a larger dick and a better working brain than you, plus my girlfriends look like supermodels (because they are) compared to that human waste you tend to rub yourself on (because it is). Also, my pretty much important ET Skill is in another league than yours, which doesn't even deserve to be ranked in this ladder that's not represantitive. Although you seem to care about it. Guess thats exactly the argumentation you understand.
No problem that you forget the japanese btw. , it's just one whole country.
Now, will you tell me that im a spas or that your IQ will beat mine? Guess im not excited. SInce i allready know which part of my post you will try to counter. Yap.

lmao sure sure, oh you realise your blow up dolls don't count? How is your ET skill in another league? You can't even manage to overtake me on these rankings?? Just one whole country on the other side of the world.. clearly not always on my mind.

u are on the wrong track. elo based rankings are only need same conditions for all players in the same game/session.
for further questions take a look to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elo_rating_system

Interesting stuff... this is what the algorithm for score i based on here? So each score is compared only with players on the same server? But overall the players are all compared from different servers though...

[germanherman]

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But seriously i'm certain i have a higher IQ than you, my 100% sure just reflects my confidence that even with variable measurements my lower IQ bound would still be above your higher IQ bound.
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and what are the points that make u belive that? nevertheless it is important to believe in something...

[SixMaJine]

Now, will you tell me that im a spas or that your IQ will beat mine? Guess im not excited. SInce i allready know which part of my post you will try to counter. Yap.

lmao sure sure, oh you realise your blow up dolls don't count?

Me got 100 points. Thanks for walking right into that one.

How is your ET skill in another league? You can't even manage to overtake me on these rankings?? Just one whole country on the other side of the world.. clearly not always on my mind.

I don't care because you don't.
Or don't you give a crap about that xp/min rating?

[Swinely]

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But seriously i'm certain i have a higher IQ than you, my 100% sure just reflects my confidence that even with variable measurements my lower IQ bound would still be above your higher IQ bound.
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and what are the points that make u belive that? nevertheless it is important to believe in something...

The description of 2 different servers, read above. Which Six is still insisting on arguing about just for the sake of it, he will never accept anything... such a moronic attitude clearly implies a low IQ.

@six

You got 100 points for what? I countered everything in your reply which was bull... so all of it, you haven't actually added one piece of serious input to anything. Seriously I can't believe your 30 its pathetic.... also you should be married so I don't see why you were making up some girl friends which you don't have.

You don't care? You do though... hence your arguing back just to have a crack at me all the time. I'll take you seriously if you ever manage to get a decent rating or just learn to talk on topic rather than getting personal.

[Andy_Clow]

[germanherman]

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Seriously I can't believe your 30 its pathetic.... also you should be married so I don't see why you were making up some girl friends which you don't have.
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hmm, a rather crude view for someone who claims to have an high IQ. the age of 30 implies, that someone [is/must be] married?
for some people the marriage is a bad life pattern at all.

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I'll take you seriously if you ever manage to get a decent rating or just learn to talk on topic rather than getting personal.
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you argue about a bad rating system, but will take someone seriously if he has a decent rating in this system? that is kind of paradox imho.
imo you cant compare the skill of two players without see them playing in teams against each other or even with each other.

cheers oaly

This post has been edited by germanherman: Jun 27 2007, 09:05 AM

[SixMaJine]

@six

You got 100 points for what? I countered everything in your reply which was bull... so all of it, you haven't actually added one piece of serious input to anything. Seriously I can't believe your 30 its pathetic.... also you should be married so I don't see why you were making up some girl friends which you don't have.

You don't care? You do though... hence your arguing back just to have a crack at me all the time. I'll take you seriously if you ever manage to get a decent rating or just learn to talk on topic rather than getting personal.

Well, maybe you accept that if you start insulting and calling me "spas" and stuff, i can have some fun too. Btw., most of your personal replies don't have any point at all, although you seem to be pretty sure that it's all based on facts. I should be married? What strange pattern has been burned in your brain? Have you watched too much tv?
It's true that i stopped arguing on the topic, but beeing called a "spas" from some obviously arrogant "someone", who believes that stating out his rank, although he admits it doesn't say anything about how good you are just makes me kind of aggressive. Plus the fact that you seem to judge everyone at your own ideals, which is simply ridicilous. Btw., i didn't mean that there is one fragile IQ, but there are some IQ's for different kinds of intelligence. But who am i telling this, i am sure you know that as good as you seem to know everything.
Me getting married... what the heck are you republican or what? Seems like it, considering that you also don't accept comics/ cartoons as a form of art.
Btw.: if you are arguing with my age, maybe you should say yours.

[Swinely]

@six

You got 100 points for what? I countered everything in your reply which was bull... so all of it, you haven't actually added one piece of serious input to anything. Seriously I can't believe your 30 its pathetic.... also you should be married so I don't see why you were making up some girl friends which you don't have.

You don't care? You do though... hence your arguing back just to have a crack at me all the time. I'll take you seriously if you ever manage to get a decent rating or just learn to talk on topic rather than getting personal.

Well, maybe you accept that if you start insulting and calling me "spas" and stuff, i can have some fun too. Btw., most of your personal replies don't have any point at all, although you seem to be pretty sure that it's all based on facts. I should be married? What strange pattern has been burned in your brain? Have you watched too much tv?
It's true that i stopped arguing on the topic, but beeing called a "spas" from some obviously arrogant "someone", who believes that stating out his rank, although he admits it doesn't say anything about how good you are just makes me kind of aggressive. Plus the fact that you seem to judge everyone at your own ideals, which is simply ridicilous. Btw., i didn't mean that there is one fragile IQ, but there are some IQ's for different kinds of intelligence. But who am i telling this, i am sure you know that as good as you seem to know everything.
Me getting married... what the heck are you republican or what? Seems like it, considering that you also don't accept comics/ cartoons as a form of art.
Btw.: if you are arguing with my age, maybe you should say yours.

I already said that was due to your lame sarcasm initially. Well you are 30... thats getting on a bit, only brough it up after your bull about all your girlfriends anyway. Actually I don't watch more than a few hours of tv a week thanks. Well it wasn't meant to make you aggressive lol. Yeah so there are several therefore anymeasurement of IQ can be fragile depending on how equally the different kinds of intelligence are measured. No the rank was just to try and make you understand the problems at higher ranks, you can't fairly comment on what I was talking about until you are a higher rank, otherwise it just doesn't work. For example I was playing on a 20/64 server, got a much higher ppm than normal and still got a - for it ?? I'm 17, oh and a conservative.

[SixMaJine]

That mass-girlfriend crap wasn't to be taken serious even at the slightest... but irony is hard to detect maybe if you just have the words w/o the sound of the voice. I don't remember exactly who started this laming ^^, but i am pretty sure that you did your part to keep it going. Well, i sure did. But you kept saying things as if you would know them and as if you would be 100% sure of what you are saying. Even so you have clearly no idea of most of the things you stated, since 1) you don't know me, and 2) most of your statements are opinions. Except for the topic maybe. I also have some friends who always are so confident in what they are saying, no matter if they know for sure, they have heard it from someone, or they don't know at all. They don't care and just keep talking, really driving me mad sometimes ("Everlast is dead? Well, if you say it...." ^^). And so did you, maybe you understand why.
Btw.: you are 17 and you allready think you are to adult for cartoons? Well i guess if you are young enough to play ET, you are almost young/ infantile enough to even watch cartoons. Maybe it's because you think that you are more adult if you dislike comics?
Also funny that you state that cartoons are childish, but then start talking about taking me seriously when i get a better rank. That is as if i would only talk to people with a gargantuan penis. Metaphorically spoken.
That "kick you in the nutz" was a cartman quote btw..
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