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sl.Binaural
post Oct 22 2006, 12:50 AM
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Winter is comming! Evenings getting longer! Time to pimp the SL!

That is why we used our braincells to let the SL shine in a new glance! There have been so many tipps and ideas in the meanwhile that it was time to implement them. You can compare it nearly to a relaunch.
Many features and essential changes were made. To give a little foretaste to what you can expect we provide you with some info which you might look forward to:
  • The biggest change is a comletely new trackercore, which lets run the SL much faster and stable. At the same time we are able to establish a new rating-system, wich is essentially fairer and more clear-transparent and no more manipulable. Also we are able to provide more than one huge rankinglist in the future.
  • There will be an entire over-worked sessioncalculation, which is much more informative. Additionally the annoying excluding of maps and servers will be omitted.
  • Abutting to the in-game-browser the SL gets a truely personalizable serverlist inclusive its own permanent-filter. You will only see what you want to see!
  • Certainly through this relaunch the SL have been optimised in the core to push the serverscans from 90 seconds to glaring 30 seconds.
    Based on the motto: "D(G)one in 30 seconds"
With more stats, more speed and even more features you will get the best SplatterLadder ever!

The new SL will raise next Wednesday (25th of october). Because the ip-adress is being also changed there will be short downtime of 2 or 3 hours during that day. The forum is not affected.

Stay tuned, your SL-Team!


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assassinx
post Nov 19 2006, 03:38 AM
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hi all,

my first post here. And I have been following warmonger's thread about the little issue with this new ranking system. I have to COMPLETELY agree with Warmonger that the rating is somehow skewed.

I just finish playing a game where I had triple the kills of any other player in the game. By all means my SPM (12.67) is higher than anyone in the server for that game. Logged of and checked SL ranking, it is a whopping -0.17 motz.gif motz.gif . Some useless nub with 0.82 rating had a SPM of 6.51 had a ranking increase of 0.52. Tell me how the hell is this called fair?

IN addition to warmonger's post, here is something else interesting. A play who changed his name had a rating of -0.1 with a SPM of 7.39. At the end of the map he had a ranking increase of 0.59. Why the fkc did he take all that points away and I get stuck with a -0.17 on the ranking?

How is it fair that good players have to play twice as hard to go up? we might as well have different ranking list altogether. people wtih a ranking of 1 to 5 compete in 1 ladder, 6 to 10 compete in another, and so on and so forth.

According to the new ranking ELO system, if I understand correctly, a good player with double the rating would have to double the SPM just to break even. Triple the rating, and you have to do TRIPLE to break even. Given the property of the game, I dont think any player, no matter how good he or she is, can do triple or quadruple consistantly to move up. And how many times when you actually really do that good, almost every whiner in the server starts accusing you of cheating and vote you off. Yeah, real nice ELO system.

This new system is actually making people frustrated then excited at this moment in time. It is not fair that nubs get to move up quicker and good players are penalized. The system in itself is not fair. Those who aren't as good shouldn't move up. If they want to move up, they need to get better.

Points should be distributed as follows. Everyone's rating comes into a pot, at the end of the session, the person with the highest SPM should get the most points. PLayers with the least SPM gets the least amount of points. PLayers whose SPM is AVG of all player's SPM in the session gets o points. Players whose SPM is below all players' SPM get points taken away. TAHT is a fair system. We still pool everyone together, the points and the performance, set a bar, if you can hope over that bar, you get points, if you can't, you lose points.

Another frustrating phenomenon is that I play the full map, get more then double the SPM compared to all other players. I dont even get a + or -, just a pitch black ranking that near moved me up ro down. Now only me, but a few other players also get the same "pitch black" ranking treatment. to add salt to the wound, players wiht much worse performance are getting +0.1 and +0.2's. I mean, What the fudge?!!

Am I alone on this, if I am not, please chime in and let the good people of SL know that this system is NOT fair. It's like affirmative action which is another word for reverse discrimination.

DragonHeart

ps. thanks Warmonger for your enlightenment.

ps. I use to let some players have a shot at killing me just so I dont make them feel bad if I consistantly kill them. NOw I totally dont give a flying sh!t. I get into 5th gear and just crush any and every players I come across. I dunno by whom killing me is my ranking doing down and his going up so I dont cut anyone a break. U bet I will camp and shoot anyone that comes out of a choke point.

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- sl.Binaural   Pimp my SL again...   Oct 22 2006, 12:50 AM
- - -IronMonkey-   let the count down start   Oct 22 2006, 01:17 AM
- - |ABC| Alzo   Lookin forward to all the new changes...as u said ...   Oct 22 2006, 03:17 AM
- - SuperCow   QUOTE(sl.Binaural @ Oct 22 2006, 12:50 AM...   Oct 22 2006, 08:05 PM
- - //ISS-HyperDex*   Yep more infos how this new rating system work wou...   Oct 22 2006, 09:31 PM
- - sl.Binaural   The news was ment as a foretaste! (As I have w...   Oct 23 2006, 10:41 AM
- - Lab Rat   You guys rock Keep up the good work and (HBC)...   Oct 23 2006, 12:03 PM
- - *SD*DarkDevil   Hi how do i put an R by my name?   Oct 23 2006, 09:37 PM
|- - NHLfan   ZITAT(*SD*DarkDevil @ Oct 23 2006, 10:37 ...   Oct 23 2006, 09:42 PM
- - Crazy-Killer   omg thankyou those ranks are wayyy off.. i usually...   Oct 25 2006, 03:59 PM
- - [FUBR]Hyperkill   yes keep good work up   Oct 25 2006, 04:59 PM
|- - elgordoloco   sounds good guys   Oct 25 2006, 05:05 PM
- - AtteL   Woo! More translating!   Oct 25 2006, 05:04 PM
- - [NooS]ErdnussJack   status:30% - the files are imported and the new e...   Oct 25 2006, 05:33 PM
- - Askari   good work ............   Oct 25 2006, 05:51 PM
- - [FUBR]Hyperkill   nice work guys keep it up   Oct 25 2006, 05:58 PM
- - RAX   go go go move out ur asses oke i wish me a sl ...   Oct 25 2006, 06:07 PM
- - sl.Rippchen   Rax spam hier nicht alle Threads voll. Die einz...   Oct 25 2006, 06:08 PM
- - Crazy-Killer   So there isn't anymore server popularity ranki...   Oct 25 2006, 08:57 PM
- - sipiatti   really nice job guys! I am very very satisfied...   Oct 25 2006, 09:42 PM
|- - pancasila   I like the new system, but there is 1 thing I don...   Oct 25 2006, 11:03 PM
- - {NB}DrRyan   Schaut bist jetzt ganz lecker aus. Auf die Gefa...   Oct 25 2006, 11:39 PM
- - [NooS]ErdnussJack   @pancasila: It isn't intended to show the aver...   Oct 26 2006, 03:52 AM
- - //ISS-HyperDex*   Crazy-Killer Posted Yesterday, 09:57 PM So there ...   Oct 26 2006, 07:51 AM
- - Sonyfan   The server popularity comes back with extra listin...   Oct 26 2006, 08:03 AM
- - //ISS-HyperDex*   EXZELLENT!!   Oct 26 2006, 08:20 AM
- - =ALPHA=X-Treme=   Ich schliesse mich den Komplimenten an Euch mal an...   Oct 26 2006, 09:13 AM
- - Darkes7   Really nice, now if someone cares about SL ratings...   Oct 26 2006, 12:02 PM
- - Birdman   Problem, From home page, when i click sl.Serverli...   Oct 26 2006, 01:03 PM
|- - sl.Proddi   ZITAT(Birdman @ Oct 26 2006, 02:03 PM) 28...   Oct 26 2006, 03:52 PM
- - kresala   ¿Any explanation about the flags, please? ...   Oct 26 2006, 11:26 PM
|- - sl.Proddi   ZITAT(kresala @ Oct 27 2006, 12:26 AM) 28...   Oct 27 2006, 06:43 AM
- - sunone   ok . you made me write my frist post on this forum...   Oct 27 2006, 07:15 AM
- - sl.Proddi   thank you for your comment. i know, my english is ...   Oct 27 2006, 07:27 AM
- - sunone   you welcome. i see wiki has been updated already ...   Oct 27 2006, 08:13 AM
- - sl.Proddi   yes .. u're right again ... the ranking. now t...   Oct 27 2006, 08:20 AM
- - sunone   hmm what a good start of a day. got info which i w...   Oct 27 2006, 08:42 AM
- - sl.Proddi   this signature doesnt work because our sig-gen hav...   Oct 27 2006, 08:58 AM
- - sunone   i see the rank has changed. nice. as for signature...   Oct 27 2006, 09:05 AM
|- - WTF!-B|ack   I still think Sniper Maps should be ranked. Snipin...   Oct 28 2006, 03:32 AM
- - Warmonger   I mentioned this in another (evidently the wrong) ...   Nov 7 2006, 10:15 PM
- - [NooS]ErdnussJack   Thats right Warmonger. Firstly I think you have al...   Nov 7 2006, 11:35 PM
|- - Warmonger   QUOTEErdnussJack' date='Nov 7 2006, 05:35 ...   Nov 8 2006, 03:48 AM
- - [NooS]ErdnussJack   ...no you are attentive anyway the calculation...   Nov 8 2006, 06:52 AM
- - Warmonger   Thank you very much for taking the time to discuss...   Nov 8 2006, 11:27 AM
- - Warmonger   It's not important, I suppose. Just wanted to ...   Nov 13 2006, 03:36 AM
- - assassinx   hi all, my first post here. And I have been foll...   Nov 19 2006, 03:38 AM
|- - Warmonger   As far as the pitch black sessions...you must actu...   Nov 19 2006, 06:55 AM
- - assassinx   Warmong puts it BEST. I just got off a map where I...   Nov 19 2006, 08:43 AM
- - sl.Proddi   the problem of a public ladder is the new playerna...   Nov 19 2006, 01:47 PM
- - Warmonger   Playerranks by server dont seem to be updating any...   Nov 19 2006, 07:52 PM
- - ukbud   im glad more peeps are realising this!!...   Nov 22 2006, 10:31 PM
|- - Warmonger   Oh it's FAR better and fairer than it was, in ...   Nov 23 2006, 07:23 AM
- - assassinx   alright, that's it. I officially quit caring a...   Nov 23 2006, 09:13 AM
- - ukbud   seems theres loads of peeps not happy total waste...   Nov 23 2006, 04:38 PM
- - hashleyplant   IF IT AINT BROKE DONT FIX IT   Nov 23 2006, 04:52 PM
- - assassinx   hi all, I do not believe there are a lot og GENUI...   Nov 23 2006, 07:23 PM
|- - Warmonger   QUOTE(assassinx @ Nov 23 2006, 12:23 PM) ...   Nov 24 2006, 12:03 AM
|- - fireatwell   QUOTE(Warmonger @ Nov 23 2006, 05:03 PM) ...   Nov 27 2006, 06:16 AM
|- - Warmonger   Wow. This is not an ET forum. Its a Splatterladde...   Nov 27 2006, 07:10 AM
- - assassinx   good points Warmonger, and I apologize to the SL t...   Nov 24 2006, 08:26 PM
- - Apart   Maybe a good idea i see :)   Dec 21 2006, 09:32 PM
- - Apart   Sl is Stuck man even when i get 17.93 acc and 448 ...   Jan 15 2007, 04:05 PM
- - NHLfan   ZITAT(Apart @ Jan 15 2007, 04:05 PM) 3431...   Jan 15 2007, 04:41 PM


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