Removing servers from splatterladder Options

[skooli]

Is it possible to remove servers from splatterladder?

There are some private servers which already stopped reporting to the masterservers yet they still keep getting listed here on splatterladder because you continue to scan all servers you found.
I'm with GamesTV.org and sometimes it's a pain in the ass that you can just enter a players name and get the server he's playing on - just look at yesterdays EC final if follow that.

Some of the matchservers stopped reporting (and are not listed on a masterserver-query for a couple of hours now) but as long as you keep them in your db and keep scanning them its not worth much.
Would be nice if they could be removed somehow, is there a mechanism for that?

[Krauersaut]

And what's the point in having it not monitored? Just set a strong password to get rid of the trolls.

[skooli]

And what's the point in having it not monitored? Just set a strong password to get rid of the trolls.

strong password doesnt help against dos attacks or the exploits which surface occasinally

[Krauersaut]

And what's the point in having it not monitored? Just set a strong password to get rid of the trolls.

strong password doesnt help against dos attacks or the exploits which surface occasinally

If you're afraid of DDOS attacks, you should either get a good and secure server host or learn to secure your servers. It's not our job to worry about your security.

Thank you.

[burneddi]

If you're afraid of DDOS attacks, you should either get a good and secure server host or learn to secure your servers.

No offense, but do you know anything at all about networking?
Given enough people (or one scriptkiddie with a botnet) any server accessible on the internet can be DDoSed. With enough attackers a basic "smurf attack" will just flood the router of the target computer with requests to be handled, which will make it work slower. When there's a metric fuckton of these requests, it will basically completely freeze, taking ages to handle them all as they keep piling up. For example if a couple of hundred people held down F5 on your front page your server would sure as hell come down, and there's pretty much nothing you can do about it.

One way would indeed be to use a VPN such as Hamachi, but surely you should understand that this would require unusually large arrangements, since an important match cannot be played on a random homehosted server, and no server provider I know of supports such things out of the box. It would require negotiations, and I doubt any server provider, YCN for example, would bother with such things.

Another way would of course be to set up some firewall that blocks all requests from Splatterladder servers, so that SL couldn't request the serverinfo, but it would really just be too much work. Seeing the circumstances I am astonished to see that you still refuse to cooperate - it is my belief you do not wholly understand the situation.

give the server ports that splatterladder not support :)

This would be a good idea, but many servers are hosted on server providers with automatic scripts or a firewall in place seeing that only the designated ports are used. Hence changing them in the server config is not an option.

There's absolutely no reason to hide a public server, no matter if it's protected by a password or not streaming to the in-game server browser.

There is, and it's a valid reason, too. Did you even read the posts above you? Are you aware of what kind of trouble your service has indirectly caused to important matches such as the last EuroCup final?

This post has been edited by burneddi: Sep 12 2010, 08:31 PM

[Krauersaut]

If you're afraid of DDOS attacks, you should either get a good and secure server host or learn to secure your servers.

No offense, but do you know anything at all about networking?
Given enough people (or one scriptkiddie with a botnet) any server accessible on the internet can be DDoSed. With enough attackers a basic "smurf attack" will just flood the router of the target computer with requests to be handled, which will make it work slower. When there's a metric fuckton of these requests, it will basically completely freeze, taking ages to handle them all as they keep piling up. For example if a couple of hundred people held down F5 on your front page your server would sure as hell come down, and there's pretty much nothing you can do about it.

One way would indeed be to use a VPN such as Hamachi, but surely you should understand that this would require unusually large arrangements, since an important match cannot be played on a random homehosted server, and no server provider I know of supports such things out of the box. It would require negotiations, and I doubt any server provider, YCN for example, would bother with such things.

Another way would of course be to set up some firewall that blocks all requests from Splatterladder servers, so that SL couldn't request the serverinfo, but it would really just be too much work. Seeing the circumstances I am astonished to see that you still refuse to cooperate - it is my belief you do not wholly understand the situation.

give the server ports that splatterladder not support :)

This would be a good idea, but many servers are hosted on server providers with automatic scripts or a firewall in place seeing that only the designated ports are used. Hence changing them in the server config is not an option.

There's absolutely no reason to hide a public server, no matter if it's protected by a password or not streaming to the in-game server browser.

There is, and it's a valid reason, too. Did you even read the posts above you? Are you aware of what kind of trouble your service has indirectly caused to important matches such as the last EuroCup final?

Thank you, I am afraid I do know quite a lot about networking, whilst such a talented league gamer like you is surely more informed than me. As I mentioned before, it is not our job to make sure your servers are not harmed by DDoS attacks of "scriptkiddies" as you fittingly name them. The idea of using a VPN was sarcasm, which I'm afraid didn't accomplish it's mission. To avoid any more confusion, I'll be as clear as possible on this topic: We neither care about your important matches, nor do we care about the harm we cause. Feel free to block whatever you like.

Thank you for using our services.

[Galaxy]

We neither care about your important matches, nor do we care about the harm we cause.

So you basically don't care about ET? Even if it's no Jaymod, these important matches are still as important as the =FA= servers are. And SL should not just shut their eyes. It wouldn't hurt to delete some servers of your list, but it would help a lot.

[Krauersaut]

We neither care about your important matches, nor do we care about the harm we cause.

So you basically don't care about ET? Even if it's no Jaymod, these important matches are still as important as the =FA= servers are. And SL should not just shut their eyes. It wouldn't hurt to delete some servers of your list, but it would help a lot.

Could you please stop abstracting things from what I've posted? We do care about ET but not about your thoughts of server security. We will not delete any servers from our lists just because you're afraid of any DDoS attacks when playing your league matches. For the second time in this thread: Secure your servers or get a good host if you're unable to do so.