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Wolf Enstein
post Dec 8 2014, 06:11 PM
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There's been quite a lot of talk about this subject in our chatbox on the SL main page. Schnoog's asked for a thread to be started, in order to deal with this subject and everyone's ideas too. So, here it is folks, have your say and help the Splatteladder management team know exactly what you're looking for super.gif .


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$mart
post Dec 8 2014, 07:26 PM
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Personally, I don't know any false-positive with silEnT AC.
If that is 99,9% true, we could share our 'automatic bans', in order to help jaymod admins for example.
But, notice I have zero knowledge about nitmod AC or outdated punkbuster can detect nowadays.
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slim43
post Dec 9 2014, 01:03 AM
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QUOTE ($mart @ Dec 8 2014, 07:26 PM) *
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Personally, I don't know any false-positive with silEnT AC.
If that is 99,9% true, we could share our 'automatic bans', in order to help jaymod admins for example.
But, notice I have zero knowledge about nitmod AC or outdated punkbuster can detect nowadays.
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no 1 knows what they want :)must be a way to ban hackers and cheaters but with pb not working how do you define cheating my hackers aimbots def:)
do we take pb settings back to basic etc jays the man for this hes smart i think i am noob :)

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QUOTE ($mart @ Dec 8 2014, 07:26 PM) *
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Personally, I don't know any false-positive with silEnT AC.
If that is 99,9% true, we could share our 'automatic bans', in order to help jaymod admins for example.
But, notice I have zero knowledge about nitmod AC or outdated punkbuster can detect nowadays.
gruebel.gif


no 1 knows what they want :)must be a way to ban hackers and cheaters but with pb not working how do you define cheating my hackers aimbots def:)
do we take pb settings back to basic etc jays the man for this hes smart i think i am noob :)


i use my eys but cheats are gettin better than my eyes :)


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Wolf Enstein
post Dec 9 2014, 12:09 PM
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Outwith every server using Silent Mod, I can't see another way of running a successful anti-cheat system. We use ETPub and therefore have no system in place, other than just watching players and trying to see if they're cheating or just very skilled.

It's a pain in the ass for sure and we can blame those selfish Punkbuster bastards for our current predicament.


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slim43
post Dec 9 2014, 01:37 PM
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QUOTE ({WeB}GANG$TA @ Dec 9 2014, 12:09 PM) *
Outwith every server using Silent Mod, I can't see another way of running a successful anti-cheat system. We use ETPub and therefore have no system in place, other than just watching players and trying to see if they're cheating or just very skilled.

It's a pain in the ass for sure and we can blame those selfish Punkbuster bastards for our current predicament.


I agree m8 not much we can do but suffer in silence :)I go with my other plan :) vote with members to ban or remove ppl they think cheat


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CS|kOoL
post Dec 9 2014, 06:32 PM
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QUOTE ({WeB}GANG$TA @ Dec 9 2014, 12:09 PM) *
Outwith every server using Silent Mod, I can't see another way of running a successful anti-cheat system. We use ETPub and therefore have no system in place, other than just watching players and trying to see if they're cheating or just very skilled.

It's a pain in the ass for sure and we can blame those selfish Punkbuster bastards for our current predicament.

Hi,

"G" , i have already said to you and your problems will be deleted:

Change your "MOD"...run "SILENT" !!

The "SILENT MOD" is the perfect answer to your problem (s)...

In 1st the "AC" works great :) and you will can play quiet

It will simplify the life to you...you will not be lost because "ETPUB" & "SILENT" are bro , then you will have maybe a little bit of work , that is all.

Keep in mind there is no "ETKEY" required too...

The only one negative point it is for sure you will lose some people cause the "AC" who makes his job.

My server runs "SILENT" (powered by "SPLATTERLADDER") since almost 1 year and none crash and as you know we run more than 100 maps...

CS|kOoL.


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$mart
post Dec 9 2014, 10:06 PM
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According to kOoL, silEnT AC changed my life: I was always watching in SL to see a suspect player with high PPM, connecting in order to spec him, asking others people, but a BIG waste of time and often a bad decision on banning a simply good medic, or keeping a cheater who deactivate the hax when others are suspicious.
Now, I just have to read log of the day (grep say: silent.log), and read "between-lines" to track impolite or annoying players, now I just have to attention to these people ...
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Wolf Enstein
post Dec 10 2014, 05:31 PM
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QUOTE (CS|kOoL @ Dec 9 2014, 08:32 PM) *
"G" , i have already said to you and your problems will be deleted:

Change your "MOD"...run "SILENT" !!

The "SILENT MOD" is the perfect answer to your problem (s)...



We ran Silent Mod before, Ko0l bro, it ran smoothly too. We had to disable the Russian gun, far too powerful, we also disabled the tripmines. I honestly can't remember now why we stopped using it, maybe we'll give it another go. We've been using ETPub since it was first created and we've always loved it, old habits die hard, I suppose grin.gif .

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macbeth
post Dec 11 2014, 09:33 AM
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we started our previous clan named RaR in September 2004 with ETPUB first and when NQ been made we moved for this mod
we tested sometimes silent mod but here in WF they are for almost NQ addicts , sad cuz this mod is full of bugs and a laggy fest for some players
and I know than guys been crying cuz with silent they don't had the kick anymore

any anticheats program can' t be perfect but at least they caught some cheaters

hard to please everyone

to share the bans we have will help other clans







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$mart
post Dec 11 2014, 06:35 PM
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We could share the PBGUID (because silEnT ID means nothing for other mods) :

# Name silEnT ID PB GUID Date Banned By Duration Reason
Donald XXXXXXXX YYYYYYYY 12/28/13 silEnT 16 days Automatic ban based on technical evidence of cheats.


This one ends in 16 days. A/C bans for one year. (not enough lol)


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CS|kOoL
post Dec 13 2014, 08:12 AM
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Hi,

The best way it is to get an efficient "AC" as there is in "SILENT MOD" because as we know all...

"silEnT ID" + "PB GUID" + "IP" + "MAC adress" = all that can be easily by-passed.

After an admin can say he goes to check the suspicious players but we are all OK => what a time wasting !!

We have to specify too that is not so simple but a good "AC" makes life easier , it is a real comfort....but let's keep in mind the perfect "AC" doesn't exist !!

Message to all server admins who don't run an "AC":

Suddenly turn ON an "AC" !! You will have any sacred surprise...

For me all the servers who don't have any "AC" are not serious because we are almost in 2015 and there are any alternatives about "AC" , it is just my point de view.

CS|kOoL.

Edit: I have added the "MAC adress" who can be too easily by-passed :)

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schnoog
post Dec 13 2014, 04:29 PM
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With PB on,also other parameter can be fetched (like done for example at one private hub) which are not easily bypassed (security by obscurity)


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[DooC]*Gauki
post Dec 15 2014, 12:16 AM
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we use NxAc from nitmod - its works.. but we still have problems with wallhackers sadd.gif


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CS|kOoL
post Dec 15 2014, 05:44 AM
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QUOTE ([DooC]*Gauki @ Dec 15 2014, 12:16 AM) *

we use NxAc from nitmod - its works.. but we still have problems with wallhackers sadd.gif


Hi,

Yes "Gauki" you are right and it is for that "N!tmod" sinks , look...there are less and less of servers who run "N!tmod".

Anyway it is the main reason we have switched to "SILENT MOD" , "N!tmod" is a gruyere cheese !

Since almost 1 year we are glad to run "SILENT MOD" , there is nothing to signal.

Say hello to "AXEL" and his brother "EDDY" for me... :)

CS|kOoL.

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slim43
post Dec 17 2014, 06:56 PM
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I am lost already lol hi all :)


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