Ranking system continued Options

[Flocky]

Agreed.

[Swinely]

That mass-girlfriend crap wasn't to be taken serious even at the slightest... but irony is hard to detect maybe if you just have the words w/o the sound of the voice. I don't remember exactly who started this laming ^^, but i am pretty sure that you did your part to keep it going. Well, i sure did. But you kept saying things as if you would know them and as if you would be 100% sure of what you are saying. Even so you have clearly no idea of most of the things you stated, since 1) you don't know me, and 2) most of your statements are opinions. Except for the topic maybe. I also have some friends who always are so confident in what they are saying, no matter if they know for sure, they have heard it from someone, or they don't know at all. They don't care and just keep talking, really driving me mad sometimes ("Everlast is dead? Well, if you say it...." ^^). And so did you, maybe you understand why.
Btw.: you are 17 and you allready think you are to adult for cartoons? Well i guess if you are young enough to play ET, you are almost young/ infantile enough to even watch cartoons. Maybe it's because you think that you are more adult if you dislike comics?
Also funny that you state that cartoons are childish, but then start talking about taking me seriously when i get a better rank. That is as if i would only talk to people with a gargantuan penis. Metaphorically spoken.
That "kick you in the nutz" was a cartman quote btw..
v55

You do kind of need a face or the sound of voice to detect it. I think to be fair we both had our parts in it, but whatever can we just go back onto the topic! (Oh and btw I've wanted some everlast stuff for ages... rarely sold over here in the UK) haha i love southpark, I was thinking of lame things by cartoons really, but thats the only one I watch. And anyway cartman hasnt said that for ages??
You still don't get it.... omg... start talking to you seriously about the TOPIC, when you get a better rank, otherwise there is no way for you to understand and talk fairly about it!!

[H.E.R.R.]

I think we have to teach him Doc!!!

He who knows not, and knows not that he knows not is a fool. Shun him.

He who knows not, and knows that he knows not, is a student. Teach him.

He who knows, and knows not that he knows, is asleep. Wake him.

He who knows, and knows that he knows, is wise. Follow him ( that's us )

[Swinely]

http://et.splatterladder.com/?mod=playerin...mp;idx=24965653

WTF!! 7 players on the server so it shouldn't count lmao.... but no it does??

[NHLfan]

http://et.splatterladder.com/?mod=playerin...mp;idx=24965653

WTF!! 7 players on the server so it shouldn't count lmao.... but no it does??

Yes it did count, but not for you!
(sessiondetails)

the map took 6 minutes (it was a quickie!)
7 of 12 players which has connected on this map were count and did get a normal rating.
you didn't because you have played 4,5 minutes, which is too short.

It's necessary that at least 6 players, play at least 5 minutes per map.

Here are the details:

Not every player of a session, as well not every session is being calculated. There a several requirements for this:

session-criteria:

* The session has to be at least five minutes long.
* A minimun number of six players have to play 2/3 of that session (the green bar should show 2/3)
* The played map must not be disabled (Trickjump- and sinper-maps are disabled by default for a valid rating)
* No bot- or tv-server is allowed and punkbuster has to be enabled

You didn't get the rating, because you didn't meet the criteria, it's that simple!

[Swinely]

http://et.splatterladder.com/?mod=playerin...mp;idx=24965653

WTF!! 7 players on the server so it shouldn't count lmao.... but no it does??

Yes it did count, but not for you!
(sessiondetails)

the map took 6 minutes (it was a quickie!)
7 of 12 players which has connected on this map were count and did get a normal rating.
you didn't because you have played 4,5 minutes, which is too short.

It's necessary that at least 6 players, play at least 5 minutes per map.

Here are the details:

Not every player of a session, as well not every session is being calculated. There a several requirements for this:

session-criteria:

* The session has to be at least five minutes long.
* A minimun number of six players have to play 2/3 of that session (the green bar should show 2/3)
* The played map must not be disabled (Trickjump- and sinper-maps are disabled by default for a valid rating)
* No bot- or tv-server is allowed and punkbuster has to be enabled

You didn't get the rating, because you didn't meet the criteria, it's that simple!

Thats what I thought, I already knew most of that ^ . I wouldn't have been having knife stabbing wars if it was going to count >.>
Check on this page again! It clearly shows a - score. Even though on the details it shows no -ve. Talk about broken because its actually taken off the score anyway.

edit: hahah now look, even though i was getting the highest ppm of all players i still get -ve. The ranking system is utter bull shit with few players,it does not work in the slightest.

This post has been edited by Swinely: Jun 28 2007, 03:24 PM

[SixMaJine]

Maybe- and thats what i tried to tell you between all my sarcastic insultations - you should think about a better way. Instead of simply stating out the errors of this ranking system, which, as i have said before, is an absolutely free gift to us ET players, you could think about a way to improve it. Think about it: if you would run a page like this, without earning money with it, would you like to read accusations about it's functionality? If all people would just cry about it, i guess the SL wouldn't last very long. I know, how i told you my opinion was a bit rude in the beginning, so i try it in a more calm way this time.
It's a gift, so complaining is totally no option. But i guess you have understood that. Nevertheless, everybody knows about the flaws this ranking system has, and noone i know gives a crap about his rank, not only because it cannot measure your true skill, but also because it's like some kind of penis comparison. And the fact that you seem to care about it so, well, let's say "desperately", although that word is not 100% fitting, makes you seem a little, sorry to say it, ridicilous. Plus the fact that you don't grow tired of pointing out your rank. But that was just for the explanation of my behaviour in some ways. I respect the fact that you apologized and admitted that it wasn't only my bad behaviour that let this topic escalate^^.
Okay, what i want to say is: this page exists for several years. I bet that if the SL-folks would have figured out a better way for a fair ranking, they would have implemented it. So i guess it makes no sense to simply complain about it... come up with some ideas of your own, and offer your help in transferring those ideas into code. Everything else is just whining and beeing unthankful, because this page and its tracker are for free. This is no ass crawling, it's just my view of fairness.
P.S: that Cartman quote comes from the south park/ phantom menace parody, and its sadly the only part where Cartman appears.

This post has been edited by SixMaJine: Jun 29 2007, 03:33 PM

[Swinely]

Maybe- and thats what i tried to tell you between all my sarcastic insultations - you should think about a better way. Instead of simply stating out the errors of this ranking system, which, as i have said before, is an absolutely free gift to us ET players, you could think about a way to improve it. Think about it: if you would run a page like this, without earning money with it, would you like to read accusations about it's functionality? If all people would just cry about it, i guess the SL wouldn't last very long. I know, how i told you my opinion was a bit rude in the beginning, so i try it in a more calm way this time.
It's a gift, so complaining is totally no option. But i guess you have understood that. Nevertheless, everybody knows about the flaws this ranking system has, and noone i know gives a crap about his rank, not only because it cannot measure your true skill, but also because it's like some kind of penis comparison. And the fact that you seem to care about it so, well, let's say "desperately", although that word is not 100% fitting, makes you seem a little, sorry to say it, ridicilous. Plus the fact that you don't grow tired of pointing out your rank. But that was just for the explanation of my behaviour in some ways. I respect the fact that you apologized and admitted that it wasn't only my bad behaviour that let this topic escalate^^.
Okay, what i want to say is: this page exists for several years. I bet that if the SL-folks would have figured out a better way for a fair ranking, they would have implemented it. So i guess it makes no sense to simply complain about it... come up with some ideas of your own, and offer your help in transferring those ideas into code. Everything else is just whining and beeing unthankful, because this page and its tracker are for free. This is no ass crawling, it's just my view of fairness.
P.S: that Cartman quote comes from the south park/ phantom menace parody, and its sadly the only part where Cartman appears.

Hey no worries, it was just pretty annoying to see that many problems with the system. And i've now started programming my own ladder ranking system with a friend, so if nothing else it will be good experience but we have enough time to hopefully make it into a ladder which will give people more faith in their ranks. Oh and by the way they do make money from the adverts etc. The rank as i've said before was to enable you to understand what i was talking about... at a lower rank the same problems will not be found. Ahh okay no wonder i haven't heard it in ages...the latest southpark series is the best ever though!

[sl.Proddi]

He who knows not, and knows not that he knows not is a fool. Shun him.
He who knows not, and knows that he knows not, is a student. Teach him.
He who knows, and knows not that he knows, is asleep. Wake him.
He who knows, and knows that he knows, is wise. Follow him ( that's us )

the right words on the right topic

[SixMaJine]

Hey no worries, it was just pretty annoying to see that many problems with the system. And i've now started programming my own ladder ranking system with a friend, so if nothing else it will be good experience but we have enough time to hopefully make it into a ladder which will give people more faith in their ranks.

Just don't care about it... should be enough to know that you can play Although, caring too much about the rank simply destroys the fun.
However, there are some servers that have a very detailed statistic of every player that visited that server, including kills and deaths with every single weapon, the percent of headshots given, etc.. I have no sample or link now unfortunately, but i am sure you will find what i meant. I am allready curious