rating problem:/ ADMINS READ THIS ??? Options

[NHLfan]

XP is the only thing that a server reports, there are no Kill/Death reports, so it's not possible to rate based on K/D

The whole game (ET) is based on XP, and not on K/D so it's not possible.

Besides, a kill and death rating doesn't mean anything, K/D Ratings are more imprecise than the XP rating

[TomDome]

mmh i post this and i know i dont make myself friends with it, but this needs to get fixed:

There are Serves like Beginners or ETC with too much solts, running on ET 2.55 Jaymod. Ppl. get without any problems 20, 25 ppm and more. But they dont get it couse they kill like 200 ppl. in a session. They throw just all the time medicpacks @ spawn or so. i tested it: played Oasis on "Beginners Xp Save", was Medic and just throw medicpacks over 30 min. sessiontime. i didnt fraged much, just stood at spawn and gave my teammates medicpacks^^ and?? 23 ppm while just killing ~ 20 ppl. xDDD also u get very fast high levels, medic level 5 in less than 10 min np on Beginners. u need something like 5 XP for level 1, 10 XP for level 2 and so on (dont have it clear but it goes rly f***ing fast) on level 5 u can throw nonstop medicpacks :P On "Beginners World" uve adren all the time imo. thats bullshit! same on FAG and so on. this "uber server" should get out of rating or "less rated".

sry to my old clanmates of Core& who play this servers. But u all know how it works^^ frags should get rated and not XP whoring. Best is HAL clan on FAG, but uhhhhh i stop now^^

!flame on

greetz

<3 your point of view dude

[m0n|<3y]

Lol @ silas you have no idea how splatter ladder works do you , i run beginers xp save and yes its set up so things are fast but if you actually used your brain and read the documentation for the rating system you would know that the fact its fast xp makes no difference at all.
I would also like to mention that level 4 medic is at 200xp in medic points which is normal et settings so where you got the idea from that you get all levels fast is a joke. I would like to add that you need to read the jaymod documentation too :S as you clearly once again have no idea about anything your saying, level 5 medic gives you 2 more nades and that is it from 2 to 4 nades.
As for giving out medpacks and getting loads of xp for it, i have done better than your ex core guys at getting ppm by being a covert with sten no adren and just stealing unis and killing ppl.
So get your facts right 100% before you start coming here and crying about servers being taken off sl list.

[sillas]

EDIT:

nah s***t on it yw^^

This post has been edited by sillas: Jun 27 2008, 10:21 PM

[$tup!fy!]

hello, this is Core&$tup!fy
I read all topic and it has 2 parts,
first part:1
not being rated while playing whole map.(heppened to me all the time b4, now it doesnt)
solution: its quite simple, press F3 (ready) at the beggining of map, i mean in warmup...u will get rated if u do this. also if u join late map...i mean like 1 or2 minutes after map started, dont join right there, u wont get rated... join after 4 minutes and u will., this i tell by experience , i get all my maps rated with this "system" so I advice to try it even when it sounds stupid a lot of ppl done it and now works everytime.

second part: not rate begginers, fag, and etc.

I personally play in fag and begginers xp save, and by experience again, i say the following:

first ..yeh u can easy get 30ppm in fast shooting servers(like Begginers), if u are a good player and do a "bad map" u do like 21ppm.... this doesnt mean u will get more rating than slow shooting servers or normal shooting servers, for example is the same for me, I have rating 23.21 right now, if i go to Fag and rate a map, make 16ppm , as if i go to begginers and do 30ppm , i probably will get +0.00 in rating.

is the same, it doesnt matter if u do 100000000ppm ...it all depends on a lot of things, if I , in FAG, do 16ppm and second ppm guys does lets say 13ppm----means i did good, if i in begginers do 30ppm , second guy does 26ppm , i did good, but i get same result in both server as for rating, actually is harder to rate in fast shooting servers, cuz of the time charge of heavy weapons, like panser...u get pansered a lot...
my point is that it doesnt mark a difference if i do 30ppm in beggienrs ina 30 min map..lets say, or if i go to an nq server, lets say NQ kernwaffe*(sorry if wrong spelled) and do 14ppm, both ratings will be + (depending on the other ppl who played of course) and if u dont believe it...well just check my rating today, and check Breti*** 's rating today, he does 14ppm in Nq, i do 30ppm in begginers, we both get yellow+ rating.
so for me the system works well in every server, my only "complaint" about splatter ladder would be the awards..., cuz some noobs get it just playing on some new map, i ll post example one of these days as i didnt take Screenshots last time it happened.
btw sillas is nothing against u is just my point of view based on experience on the servers u mentioned.
as for etc i cant tell anything because those noobs baned me only for being in core clan haha, so well...w/e..

if u find something wrong in what i said,...plz dont argue.. , as i said this is my point of view and this is how its been working for me for 1 year now, so i hope both parts of my post help the ppl who needed help and solve the questions in matter.
cya, good luck


edit1: as monkey said, he indeed has more ppm as a covert ops with sten , than me as a medic, high kills/low deaths its very important in Begginers in order to get good rating, i barely throw med packs really. plus monkey is very good with sten

This post has been edited by $tup!fy!: Jun 28 2008, 03:06 AM

[sillas]

well i make it short

1. It wasnt vs Core& clan. As u know Core& has good and skilled players, also i had i good time there But as u maybe also know i left couse i was sick of this rating thingy. I had like 22,7 rating or so but i never played this big Jaymod servers. Sure i tested them and sure i made good ppm. But i stood on "little" 24 slot servers. Why? - laggs - low FPS - doubble jumps - fast rtcw shooting (on some) - arty spam - XP whoring. U remember BH Funserver? That was a nice server! 28 slots, NO XP SAVE (just as long as u stayed on the server and 1 hr after that), no fast shooting and no doubble jumps Well i didnt quittet ET^^ atm i play again and im much more proud of 17 ppm while just playing Engi with rifle on a little server as for 25 ppm as medic on this big server.

Well also just MY point of view.

2. The rating of ET 2.55 with Jaymod is bugged. Nothing more to say about this, there are like 100 topics about this here.

3. I cant take ppl. like some guys of HAL clan serious, who play on FAG and just make ppm while giving medic packs. U know also how they do their ppm...if not ask Splash or so.

Its a (dieing) game. HF as long as it stays alive...

closed from my site

fun guys

sillas

[TomDome]

hm ok i give my 5 cents too now...

i am a low skilled player and most of the time i hang around with a 10 - 13 rating depending on how often i play which places me somewhere around 20.000 sl ranking...

if i join a server with the described behaviour of fast xp while only handing out medpacks at the spawn and kill the one or the other opponent during the map, its possible to get my rating up to 20+ without even beeing skilled low+ or med.... i tried this "game" once to see how high i can get in the sl rating list and you know what? I went on sl ranking 114 within a few days with 20.05 rating without even killing more then 3 or 4 ppl during a map...

The sl is a great and fantastic project that keeps et alive togheter with some other great sites and i and i guess many other players appreciate that very much.
But i agree with sillas that the rating system of et is not quite accurate (thats not a business of sl or other rating prjects though) and so you have a huge advantage if you focus on the rating and the sl if you play on that kind of "overpowered" servers.

Thats my point of view.

[$tup!fy!]

haha if u can get rating 20 killing 3 or 4 ppl in a map i wanna go with u, anytime, lets go show me ur 20ppm killing 3 or 4 ppl in map , plz name me a server a time(gtm) and show me plz? throw 10000000 med packs and kill 4 ppl and get 20ppm ,
haha plz ppl lets do not talk shit just to make splatter looks bad.

sillas is the same to get 17ppm in the servers u play as for me geting 30ppm in a big server

again, plz look top , ckick on Breti*** profile, see his ppm and his ratings , the click my name, see my ppm and rating, no diff.

and i will wait for u tom i really wanna see this? and also would take u about 5 months to get 20+ just throwing med packs..if u get to 20 haha amazing how ppl lie

[sillas]

slow down dude

[TomDome]

haha if u can get rating 20 killing 3 or 4 ppl in a map i wanna go with u, anytime, lets go show me ur 20ppm killing 3 or 4 ppl in map , plz name me a server a time(gtm) and show me plz? throw 10000000 med packs and kill 4 ppl and get 20ppm ,
haha plz ppl lets do not talk shit just to make splatter looks bad.

sillas is the same to get 17ppm in the servers u play as for me geting 30ppm in a big server

again, plz look top , ckick on Breti*** profile, see his ppm and his ratings , the click my name, see my ppm and rating, no diff.

and i will wait for u tom i really wanna see this? and also would take u about 5 months to get 20+ just throwing med packs..if u get to 20 haha amazing how ppl lie

You are just stuipd?
You come here and post crap and call me a liar for telling the truth everybody knows?

Get a real life dude...


Go on big servers like Parazit and do nothing except handing out medpacks all the time, like some dudes of top ten clans do on this and other servers and watch your rating grow... and then fall down on your knees and pray for mercy for calling other people liars...

You aren´t worth any more comment dude.


Edit:
Everybody knows that et sends xp based stats and thats the problem with xp whores like u... you play for stats not for the fun of the game...

This post has been edited by TomDome: Jun 29 2008, 04:19 PM

[$tup!fy!]

pff ok i didnt insult u at any time, u do...that shows me ur a kid...but w/e i play for fun all day check Core&$tup!fy! <<<fun name... and i rate 3 maps or 1....each day.
and yes u are a liar., and u are the stupid dude, u just simply cant get + killing 3ppl and throwing 100000 packs, again i dare u "stupid" to show me, so u show "every1" here how right u are with ur comments.
and i repeat for all,
what i wrote is my point of view based on experience so save ur insults nub and come show me ur 20ppm with 3 kills plz?
maybe in Parazits? or begginers? where u want dude

[TomDome]

your mum

[$tup!fy!]

"your mum"

tought so..lol ^^^^ just a kid, well dont spam here is no spam section just try to solve some problems and questions that ppl asked here.
i am still waiting to see that 20ppm killing 3 ppl when u want, cya kid

[CoRe&RaNGe]

$tup!fy :) XD

[NHLfan]